Thursday, July 26, 2012

Conversation w/ Khagendra Shangraula



On July of 2012, I had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Khagendra Shangraula at his residence in Kathmandu. Mr. Shangraula is a very well known writer of fiction and non-fiction. He is equally noted for his political analysis. Below are some short excerpts from a longer conversion on a wide range of political issues in Nepal today. To listen to the entire conversation (in Nepali) visit http://chirb.it/Kae5Ls

Mr. Shangraula

The failure of the Constituent Assembly:
As glimpsed from the outside, the failure of the CA appears to be due to issues around “identity.” Or, identity-based Federalism. In reality, however, a conflict between federalism and anti-federalist forces is at the heart of all of this. The question of identity is only superficial, but the actual substance is Federalism itself. Certain forces seek recognition of identity; those who have been historically marginalized; those who have lost their land; and those whose culture and language have been suppressed seek federal provinces named based on population, language, geography and history. 


The present scenario:
There is a struggle between two forces: one side questions whether Nepal should become a federation, and the other seeks to maintain the status quo. Pertinent to this discussion is whether there should be equality and justice for all. Should Nepal finally address politically, the concerns of groups that have been historically marginalized? Nepal is still at a crossroads on these issues. The group that has enjoyed the privilege of power for an extended period does not want change. One side does not want Federalism. The other side will not be happy without it. That is the current conflict, in a nutshell. My own thoughts on this is that either Nepal will choose federalism and the marginalized groups and areas will get the justice they deserve. Failing this, Nepal will once more find itself at war. I cannot tell who will start the war, but the conflict could be between Hill vs. Terai or Janajati vs. Brahmins.

Guava tree in Mr. Shangraula's garden

The weakness of the Federalist forces:
The main weakness of the Federalist forces was they did not define very well what Federalism would look like according to the makeup of Nepali society. When Federalist forces started proposing names such as Limbuwan and Khambuwan, the anti-Federalists made it an issue and gave it the colour of ethnicity. (They said) in Limbuwan province Limbus would have hegemony. Similarly in Khumbuwan, Rais would etc. But in fact Nepal is a multicultural society and the country is composed of a diverse group of peoples. There is not one single group that makes up a majority. Once we go into Federalism, there will be elections. Let us take an example of the Limbuwan province. In an election the Limbus would themselves not be a majority. Hence, in order to form a government, there would have to be collaboration between different forces. Federalism has not been defined in that way. The Federalist forces did not make the abovementioned things clear and the anti-Federalist forces took advantage of this by claiming that it would lead to hegemonies of certain groups, with the country eventually breaking into pieces etc.


On anti-Federalist forces:
There are two kinds of anti-Federalist forces. One who sincerely believes that naming federal provinces based on identity could lead to instability. A second group is taking advantage of this first group’s sentiment and want to stop the entire process of Federalism.


The work required of the Federalist forces:
The Federalist forces have to explain what Federalism means to the general public. They have to explain that under Federalism all groups would have the right to vote and live freely. Otherwise it will be very difficult to implement such a system, because anti-Federalist forces are very strong. Examples include the judiciary system, the top brass of the Nepal Army, the majority of the governmental bureaucracy, and many other areas that are dominated by Bahun-Chhetris are all for the status quo. Hence there are strong forces against Federalism.



The Maoist-split:
The first effect of the Maoist split will be that their bargaining power will be reduced. Secondly, division will affect their morale. Thirdly, it will also depend upon what the Baidya faction will do. When the Baidya faction split, they said that they would take a revolutionary role. But looking at their activities after the split, they have not been doing what they said they would. They are roaming around Kathmandu. Sometimes they go to see the President. At other time, they are vandalising some education institutions to show their identity saying that they are different. If the peace process and the constitution process move ahead according to plan, then the Baidya faction cannot accomplish anything. If the peace and constitution process does not move forward, then the disaffected people might begin following the Baidya faction.

The Maoist insurgency lead to around 15,000 deaths, with many people still missing and many others scarred from bullets. Because of this the Nepali society is very tired. Just because you declare a war does not mean that people are going to follow in line to die for you. The biggest question among people is what would be the fruit of such a big sacrifice? Without people getting an answer to that question, there will not be another war.

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